FIGHT (?) FOR LOVE

While every other bus fan was getting emotional of the last day when Hyderabad was the capital of united Andhra Pradesh , I thought I ll get emotional too (oh god) and forced my way away from the thesis drawings to take a few pictures of city services to start the new branding for love of Z ( I really did that :X) . That was a fruitful walk to Dilsukhnagar though ! I could finally take a good picture of the new re built ordinary bus ! 

At around 7 when i again got bored with my thesis , I shared the picture of hayathnagar's new(old) rebuilt bus on Facebook not expecting an eventful night and the next day .

The following conversation happened between 2 of my seniors , 2 very good friends (whom i never met . hell yeah - god bless facebook) and an ex faculty of mine . all from Hyderabad. HAU !

Senior 1

These buses u share ... 

are louzy asses that drive like maniacs ... 

none of them have road sense... 

I dont know why u share dem 

Me

Because of the never ending love for z

I really thought this would end here 

Senior 1

Then teach them educate dem to drive like sensible citizens . 

Half of these aps rtc fools and half of auto drivers drive like they own the bloody road .

Though i could digest the first one, i had to reply for the second comment . chuck thesis for a while .

Me

Govt bus drivers are the only ones who are trained to *drive* . live with the fact that public transport is heavily neglected which in turn is causing the lack of funds to recruit staff . understaffed rtc is crying for attention while the mighty metro is crushing it down . most of the accidents/rash driving incidents are the result of fatigue.

Senior 1

They drove pethetic period ..
they know not wat lanes are ..
they know not what turning is ...
they know not what indicators are ...
u cannot blame funds for it u cannot blame govt for it ...
driver sitting on the seat is not a robot to be controlled by govt ..
he has his own mind ...
they take the second lane and as if its their fathers road come on second lane ... they dont really go to the bus bays ...
who will teach them this ...
u cannot ask govt to do dis ..
nor metro is responsible for it ...
its the rtc body ...
for having such drivers..

Look at the pic u uploaded for instance wer the hell is he driving which lane ???
My argument is just plane and simple ...
stop posting these pics educate these ppl what roads are ...
not just rtc ..
all public transport systems .

Me

where the hell are others driving that you start questioning the bus .

shit ! i snapped .

that indicator part you mentioned is truly amazing . do you even know that buses stay idle in depot just because their tires are punctured .. leave alone the indicators, there is no enough staff / machinery to change the tires. and regarding the staff , all of the government corporations are said to be independent , which is not true in its sense . only financial independence is what they get which compels them to function as any other private body but yeah they have to take approvals from government to recruit staff, take loans and even hike the fares. because of the fact that there limited financial resources, contract/outsourced staff are being hired to meet the demand. regarding the teaching fact, i would like to tell you that we have been writing letters to depot managers regarding drivers not stopping buses and the poor condition of the buses, and the bus shelters which i would like to call *ad booths*

or should i have said " dude chill it is just a picture of cute new bus" .

Friend 1

Then what abt Two wheelers who overtakes buses from left side?yes bus drivers stop in the middle of road bcz of these two whellers and autowalas as they cross the bus from left side so how can one driver take bus into bus bay while some bike or an auto or a car overtakes from left side of bus? Coming tp Indicators, 1-Apsrtc bus out of 24 hours 18 hours it will be upon road mostly in traffic vehicles hit the bus at signals these leads to damage of tail lights n indicators after all these bus stays just 3,4 hours in depot so how can one make it through inspect the bus lights or any other damages. Most of all "When a single person taking his personal vehicle and using some place upon road then how come you blame APSRTC buses which carries 70+ members with a space using 10meters.
 

ఒక కార్ లో సింగల్ పర్సన్ వెళ్తూ ట్రాఫిక్ కి అంతరాయం కలిగిస్తే లేని కోపం ౭౦+ మెంబెర్స్ ని ఒక ౧౦ ఫీట్ ఎ పియస్ ఆర్టీసీ బస్సు తీస్కేల్తున్నప్పుడు ఎందుకు ?

phew! finally 

Senior 1

Dey drive pethetic ... agree to it .. and I aint blaming aps rtc .. I blaming thier drivers .. dont take it personal... u dont own aps rtc... and I just told educate the drivers ... instead u ppl are trying so hard to explain all the non sense loop holes in the govt .. funds bla bla bla ... logic was to agree that they drive pathetic not following rules ... but u guys are trying hard to convince me that they have a sad state so they drive bad ... the bikers overtake so they drive here and der ... bla bla bla ... I know u love aps rtc... that doesnt mean u go blind in love with it ... accept it ... or not they drive really rash ... and I was onli conveying that they need to educate who ever they give the bus to drive... period...

Me

okay you win . congrats !

i gave up . thesis bro ;)

Senior 2

What he said is absolutely correct.. And moreove TSRTC (previously apstrc) buses are over loaded where in metro is a very good alternative even they will fund government which infact is not private property. Using metros are pollution free unlike buses and faster. Removal of tsrtc will make lots of difference in hyderabad traffic. 

Gurugubelli Sai Ratna Chaitanya: Dude understand. Difference between fatigue and fatality.

oh god one more ! 

Me

it is not tsrtc yet and it ll not be tsrtc it will be tgsrtc rather . i ll kill my self but not agree that metro is an efficient option . it is just just an overpriced white elephant to satisfy real estate . in what way is metro not private property in hyderabad ? :X dismantling government property to build shopping malls and call it transit oriented development  . imagine 57 acres of govt land in private hands for 35 years . ppp for metro has not been a good example in india . delhi metro's airport line has stopped functioning because the concessionaire was not getting the money expected . result : stop the services and say it is because of safety issues.

any way , apsrtc is going to die a slow death if it is not attended to because of the competitors clause in the metro . that way your wish will come true (at least in the core city )

oh shit i was wrong . it indeed will be TSRTC. 

Senior 2

Learn how to abbreviate. tg is a license plate representation, not an abbreviation. 

More over in which private hands is it in? Who will be earning money end of the day. This is called development. L&T is doing for the perfection and quality. government will get their share too. It's a very good project to help many people travel. My employees are awaiting for metro so that they can use it.

And what if 57 acres are used for public purpose?

It's better than some lanco or ramoji film city grabbing them for personal benefit. 

Don't be offended if someone takes flaws in apstrc. It's not urs u don't own it. 

Talking about delhi it's only the metro which people use. And it's a very good and fast mode of transport there.

It's a sad thing to see people who study architecture come out with these false statastics and try to stop development and progress of the city.

Well nothing to offend u it's a fact.

Me

I own apsrtc . thank you !

I really wanted to end it 

Senior 2

Haha Ur hilarious ! dude accept the facts. Ur just obsessed with the fact that it has the largest fleet. chill. Accept the changes in the world. U need to live with the world. U don't own apstrc lol

He dint want to but ! 

Me

I mentioned the airport line of Delhi metro and not the whole of it . development is not handing over lands to private people when apsrtc has been asking for lands to build depots at 15 places . saying it has the largest has been its mistake . over the last two years never have i mentioned the fact that it owns the biggest fleet . :X

Whoa ! Where did DELHI come from ! 

Senior 2

Obviously who will carry luggage to airport in metro. I would never do that and most of the people who use flights will have their personal vehicles. That was just a flaw in the design to route it to airport. But look the macro scale. Ur looking into a very small bits.

Apstrc has enough land need not give anymore lands to them when the plan is to switch to metro. Simple logic. 

It does own the largest fleet. It's a record and we accept the fact. Cheers to them on that but now it's time for change.

Y don't u post about metro similarly? what sin did a metro rail do? Nothing personal but try to understand it's time to change.

Me

where does apsrtc have land in HMA ? apart from the small patches of land in musheerabad (where it already has 3 depots) . i was talking about rtc asking lands on the fringes and the newer colonies ( vilages around hyderabad once) . you definetly cant have metro there . i did post about metro . please follow the ssc hyd metro thread . metro has done nothing but a sin by f*ing the roads forever :X

ok!

Senior 2

They have given scope for development of roads. The metro landscape is also being done, giving way for greenery. My friends firm iammies also did a great job on it. like wise many did it. Learn to know facts before you speak. As I told u in last comment rtc does not need land when there is a plan for metro. The metro had been under planning from past 5 years so chill.

Me

rtc does need land . they need to expand in to the suburbs . andd for that they need to have lands to build depots . chengicherla , bandlaguda , maheshwaram are such examples where they have extended their services . will the metro go to muthangi,narsingi,pasumamula where rtc is asking for lands . wow ! decorate the roads with metro because it is hot :X

eenadu jilla edition bhayya!

Senior 2

Dude chill that's what I am saying. Metro is evolving. Just go and check the tenders u will realise metro reaching to narsingi too. It will take time. Don't be so hasty. Remember you are talking to a practicing architect and also learn from people like Hasan Nasir who suggest you good things. This is not the college level study there are many unknown facts.

What will u do with the space once the buses are not needed in hyderabad the same place will be used for intercity transport. And more over why are you fighting for the space for busses. Fight for the space for forest. Fight for the space for wild animals and endangered species. Think before u speak. U are just trying to defend rtc.

And the rtc created a huge loss to telangana crew by not paying sufficient salaries etc. u never spoke about it. One of the main reason for telangana agitation. So chill I don't wanna waste my time educating you.

peace.

Me

Neither do i have time to tell you how important rtc is for hyderabad . tenders :X i will not trust hmr on its tenders and dpr s

i will never ! 

Senior 2

Y don't u say about telangana issue by rtc? Y ru unable to unanswer all my comments and trying to. Change topics in. Every comment? Ur humiliating yourself by making such statements..

Me

Which telangana issue are you referring to . during sakala janula samme rtc joined the protest after a week it was started in all other departments . (it continued for 28 days) . it is evident that there was a demand for state hood for telangana from all government sectors . i have seen them live in transo , genco and discom of the erstwhile united andhrapradesh 

those 28 days .

Senior 2

Rofl Again u changed topic. Who cares of united ap. It's about telangana rtc employees problems which I referred to where in you dint post. 

And if Ur so worried about separate state why dint you post it till date? U should have.. but Ur only rtc. 

And before saying which telangana issue understand Ur in telangana in telangana college in telangana students seat. Hope Ur clear about this.  it is about telangana employees suffering salary Payments & 610go.

610 .

Me

which telangana issue are you referring to . during sakala janula samme rtc joined the protest after a week it was started in all other departments . (it continued for 28 days) . it is evident that there was a demand for state hood for telangana from all government sectors . i have seen them live in transo , genco and discom of the erstwhile united andhrapradesh .

Senior 2

Babu paduko u have no free and jobless..
Yeah it's about not following 610go 

Btw u were so concerned about rtc. so we told you to accept the metro. But couldn't help you. Wherein u kept on changing topics one by one.. Anyways learn difference between fatigue and fatality and come back.. RIP

Me

I am dead

lol.

Friend 2

Haha, nice to see a couple of entitled fellows whose world begins and ends with posh parts of the cities, speak their minds over here. Yeah, lets waste everyone's time and ask them to wait till metro reaches into the gallis of borabanda (i guess it will displace half the inhabitants in the process anyways) instead of spending a fraction of the amount increasing the fleet, staff or salaries. Fuck poor people if fatigue makes them preform badly on roads ruled by entitled little shits, no excuses from the exploited...only advice from the privileged. And by the time we are done waiting, another 50lakh people will join in and development waalahs sitting in AC offices and cars will advice underpaid daily labour to wait a little more in the stuffed busses, and wait for salvation. Surely the metro will be cheaper because it will need AC and escalators, (and the power plants that supply this new hunger will destroy lives and places but at least WE don't have to face that every day!) they will let you get along your spades and baskets when you take a metro for work 

Ps: You need the experience of sitting and standing in seats behind RTC bus drivers for 4 hours a day for at least 3 years, to understand the above.

Ps: 2 If any of you two wheeler losers overtake from left the next time I get down at a bus stop, I shall definitely put my fist against your shitty face. Thank you

Can i marry your thoughts .

Faculty

Der r renown urban planners n economists who support da fact dat the existing public transport systems r bein neglected though dey r most cost effective n efficiently running transport systems. Is it even wise to invest in da capital-intensive transport systems which only support a tiny proportion of urban trips. And wat cld be da only benefit of introducing these mass rapid transit systems – “gentrification” n “capital accumulation”. It is known myth dat Delhi metro is considered to b successful n is da best example of bein non-inclusive. 

Proposed metro as i said only covers tiny proportion of total urban trips and thus it integrates with RTC nd definitely RTC is in need of lands now n evn before metro was proposed. (keep googling u ll find these facts :P). 

And any firm given an opportunity will do landscape - interiors - design etc... why??... oh yes dey r paid for it... how r dey concerned by the facts to chk if da project is actually feasible or made up to luk feasible. And if same development of roads is done not for metro but to increase da number of lanes, da existing PTS will work more efficiently. And finally delhi metro didnot reduce traffic congestion or reduce pollution n is not evn climate friendly which were da objectives stated... i can give u documents on watever im stating. 

Metro is evolving... ahuh... where??? 

thank you mam  .

Senior 1

Hoooooo my god...
i just suggested a thing good thing for rtc...
u guys sure know how to take it to next level ...
teach the drivers bole toh u guys start talking like rahul gandhi ... (women empowerment) rtc empowerment ...
educate them to follow traffic rules ... how hard is that it wont cost u money ...
it will just cost u words...
stop arguing ... it was just a preposition. .. peace ...
dont escalate the arguement nothing personal ... bye...

ab ki bar .

Me

an e mail would suffice .

time to end this  ! i will never stop loving what i believe in . thesis was looming over me and i forcefully hid the picture from timeline. could not delete it . ( i robot :P )